"After the Global Financial Crisis (GFC), efforts to shore up financial stability and confidence in the financial system focused on rebuilding resiliency including restoration of capital levels on bank balance sheets and achieving stronger governance of risk culture. While the need to rebuild capital was obvious, the supervisory work on governance of risk culture is probably least understood, even if it was identified as the root cause of the GFC. Since the GFC, the discipline for supervising risk culture is marked by less consistency and transparency in different markets. Moreover, the prevailing view is that is not measurable.
Currently, there's a strong drive in the US and elsewhere to focus more on financial risk and to de-emphasize the supervision and regulation of non- financial risk or as it has come to be considered, "the soft-stuff". This worries me because the post crisis diagnosis was correct. Namely, a root cause of the GFC was that risk culture was out of whack with the goals of sustaining stability and resiliency. We need to be able to answer this challenge: How do we make it more credible to the outside world — to bankers and policy-makers — that focus on a well governed risk culture is a true north, a key component of effective supervision?"
“Compared to more specific and tangible prudential and conduct rules, ‘culture’ is a woolly mammoth — not an easy creature to define or bring to life."
“[After the Crisis,] everyone talked about culture as important — but they couldn’t define it. That made it impossible to assess or improve in any structured way.”
“Culture is a concept you can't touch, feel, or even see. Yet it has a profound impact on shaping organisations’ identities and ways of working. Because culture is viewed as abstract, this frustrates how we talk about culture as a system, which is intellectually unsatisfying because it seems to avoid the obvious realities.”
“I think the problem you’re getting at is: what is the authority under which the supervisor or regulator can argue that culture is part of their purview?
It’s sort of a soft concept. That’s what people are unhappy with. I get that. I mean, what is culture, exactly? That’s one of the challenges.
Since culture is pretty hard to identify and evaluate — and behaviors are also hard to evaluate — it’s difficult for supervisors to be confident that what they’re doing is going to meaningfully move the needle in terms of outcomes.
So I've backed away from ‘culture’ as the way I talk about this. I talk about it more in terms of incentives. We need to have the right incentives in the system because incentives drive behavior, and behavior sets the social norms. And then that collection of social norms ultimately defines what we call culture.
So the culture is the end of the road rather than the beginning of the road. And that puts culture as less central. It’s sort of the result of all this.
But the social norms are what we really need to be working on. And the incentives to shape those social norms are what we should be working on. And I think that makes it a lot more tangible.”
“[The work done on culture is] never enough. I sense that professional supervisors tend to be more comfortable with quantitative and prescriptive rules because they are easier to measure and report. Culture is harder; it's subject to interpretation.”
“Lots of things are hard. But just because this is hard, difficult to engage with, and you can't just tick a box, that makes it all the more worth engaging with.”
“I think culture has become a critical concept in modern corporate governance parlance. Good culture promotes good, objective decision-making, and I think culture plays a critical role in having a sophisticated analysis and conversation about what's going on in an institution.
There's no one culture that's going to deliver what people think they want. As a generalization, we sort of know when the culture is bad, or at least we think we know because bad things happen, right? Companies collapse, they produce toxic products, they mislead their customers.
And so we say ‘Aha! There's a cultural problem there because they haven't been able to do A, B, and C.’ And then there are other organizations where things seem to be going well, and sometimes we say about those organizations, ‘Oh, that's a good culture’.
But in my mind, culture is really a compendious type of expression where we dump all sorts of issues and problems under that umbrella. We say, ‘Well, if X has gone wrong, oh, that's the culture. It's a really bad culture.’ We've got to be careful how we use the concept because it does exhaust its usefulness after a while.”
“To date, discussions of culture have remained abstract. They’ve relied on self-assessment, survey sentiment or reputational proxies. Supervisors have struggled to clearly define what ‘good’ looks like and focus instead on evidence of ‘bad.’That understandably frustrates firms, which then tend to approach the topic as an exercise in window-dressing, designed to placate supervisors.”
“True to the University of Chicago tradition, what we’ve always tried to do is measure things that don’t at first appear measurable — or apply economics to behaviors people thought it couldn’t touch. Things like the economics of marriage or drug addiction.
You start with a behavioral model — not a perfect one, but one that gives you a benchmark to test hypotheses or prompt new insights. That’s what intrigues me about this culture conversation. I agree it’s important, but unless we make it concrete — with structure and measurement — it’s hard to get traction.”
“Organizational culture is that intangible thing that aligns each employee's attitudes and behaviors to corporate values.
We often say that employees are guided by policies, processes, rules within an organization, that is true but it's not the whole truth. More than abiding by policies and rules, employees often choose to do what is acceptable in the eyes of their bosses and their colleagues.
They do this when interpreting rules and in situations where there are no prescribed rules, and this can happen since rules cannot cover each and every situation. They will ask, ‘what will my boss, what will my colleagues expect or think about this thing I'm doing? What can I do to get me recognized, appreciated, even promoted?’ That is organizational culture at work.”
“While there is no one-size-fits-all culture, a healthy culture shares common elements.
Employees want to work for organisations whose purpose resonates with their own individual sense of purpose. Consumers want to be able to trust that firms are not only looking after their money, but also looking after their employees and other stakeholders, treating them fairly while engaging in ethical business practices. Shareholders want to invest in firms that can make them money by doing good and by adding value to society.”
“Culture is inherently less tangible than, say, capital ratios or liquidity buffers — so we used substitute words like shared values, beliefs, and behaviors. That makes the work inherently qualitative and, to some extent, subjective.
If different supervisory teams define culture differently, they will look for different things.
When I was at MAS, there was no prescriptive definition of ‘good culture’ that could be applied equally across all institutions — given their very different business models, sizes, and operating environments. What’s meaningful for a small community bank in the U.S. may not map to a global institution.
Even if we could have designed a thoughtful methodology, firms understandably perceived it as subjective, which generated resistance — or at least limited buy-in. That, in turn, could undermine the effectiveness of supervisory recommendations.
So, how do we assess culture without a one-size-fits-all worksheet?”
“There is broad agreement that culture is an important driver of institutional performance. However, for the most part, our assessments are implicit. There is no explicit or quantitative measurement. The question therefore arises as to whether we need to be more systematic and consistent in our assessments of culture (both of our own and other organisations).”
“For regulators, ‘culture’ has often meant creativity, balance, and — critically — understanding the businesses we oversaw. The Fed, for example, has been very good at understanding firms deeply and pushing for improved behavior.
But we haven’t always framed it in terms of ‘culture’ as you now are in this report.
When we sought to explore culture at FINRA 12 years ago, we didn’t obsess over the label. You could call it culture, or you could call it strategy. What mattered was three things:
How do firms talk about new opportunities and communicate consistently?
How do they enforce accountability when people move off course?
How do they respond when things go wrong — especially with their most successful people?
Those are culture questions, even if you don’t call them that. Culture is a useful shorthand for the norms, strategies, and decision habits that distinguish firms. If you break it into buckets like I’ve just done, it becomes more measurable, less ephemeral.
Critically, the most important indicator of culture is how a firm reacts when things go wrong. And stuff will go wrong. The question is: are people held accountable? Are changes made that make recurrence less likely? That’s what supervisors should be watching.”
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